Minutes, 25th January 2005
Chair: David Foster – Tel: 01788 544991 Secretary: John Burrell – Tel: 01788 533796
Rugby Disability Forum – Minutes of an Ordinary meeting held At Hamilton House at 10:00 am on Tuesday 25th January 2005
Present: Jack Lawton, Sheena Corbett, Clem Griffiths, Paul Tolley, Brian Edwards, Mark Offord, Lionel Broughton, Cliff Dennis, Pam Jones, Andrew Cowan, Steve Bunyan, Joanne Roberts, Marion Hersey, Pat Compton, Anne Clarke, John Burrell, Chris Widows, Harry Mossop, Janet Hyde.
Apologies: Robin Richter, David Foster, Gloria Lawley Ord, Dot Purdy, Joan Nyilassy, June Brown, Martin Eversfield, Jan Dunsieth
Jack introduced himself as Chair in David’s absence as David is currently recovering from an operation. The Forum acknowledged all of David’s hard work and wished him a speedy recovery.
1 Minutes of Meeting 21st December 2004
John Burrell’s title should have read ‘Building Control Manager and Access Officer’. John Burrell was listed in the attendance list of the last meeting twice. Other than these corrections the minutes of the last meeting were agreed as accurate.
Mark from J&D Mobility was introduced as attending today’s meeting, he was invited by Steve Bunyan as it is hoped that J&D Mobility will be able to assist with the forthcoming wheelchair race event.
A £100 cheque donation was given to Irene in respect of the room hire of Hamilton House by the Forum as a one off donation. The money was gifted to the Forum by Rugby CVS. Irene stated that so many diverse groups use the building and the donation was very welcome.
2 Presentation on the Flexibus Scheme.
Richard Tuck from Warwickshire County Council gave a presentation on the Flexibus Scheme that operates in Warwickshire and explained how the County Council run an integrated transport unit which includes school transportation. Richard stated that the Council are extremely under-funded in this area. This year 1.8m is to be spent on public transport but only £196,000 of this amount is spent in line with the votes of Councillors each February. Richard stated that many public transport buses are linked to School transport to make economies.
Flexibuses started in 1990 when Stagecoach approached Warwickshire County Council with single deck town services with wheelchair access. By 1998 Stagecoach was unable to keep the buses going due to their age. Plaxtons developed minibuses with tail-lifts at around the same time and 4 of these were bought with rural funding to operate once per week.
Last year the service went out to tender and Warwickshire County Council put £170,000 towards purchasing more flexibuses and now owns 11 in total. As part of the contract conditions the Flexibus Operator must have a free phone number and if someone lives within a mile of the published route and has phoned 1 day ahead they will be picked up as long as the bus can access them.
Richard acknowledged that there have been comments that for trips planned for a Monday that users have had to let the operator know of their intentions on the preceding Friday.
The free phone number for Flexibus is:
0500 212225 ask for Ian (Manager or Rhoda his wife).
Routes of the Flexibus service are produced by Warwickshire County Council which are available from the Library, Tourist Information Centre, Post Offices and Mobile Libraries. The routes are published twice a year. On the back of each map is a town map showing all routes.
ACTION: The Tourist Information Centre will check that they have a good stock.
Bus stops are operated by the Highway Authority. They have until 2015 to ensure that all bus stops (15,000 in the county) are accessible to all disabled people and low floor buses.
By 2012 – all buses must be low floor. At present every new bus bought must be low floor.
Timetables are available in alternative formats on request. Richard stated that he does not think that it is available in Braille at present.
Flexibuses work on a 10 year service life. Do not operate evenings or weekends, are available 7-5 Mon – Fri during school days.
Pat Compton raised the issue that disabled people are being dropped off at unofficial stops causing them problems. Richard stated that this is a problem specific to Rugby as the Clock Tower stop is on a bend and Rugby Borough Council has installed a raised kerb which prevents the low floor buses from being able to use the bus stop by the sports shops. At present the service road entrance to Natwest Bank is being used to drop individuals off due to problems at all other locations tried out.
ACTION: all members who have any ideas or proposed solutions to the drop off problem to forward their comments to David Foster.
Tony Spencer at Clock Towers will be approached regarding the more permanent use of the service road although delivery lorries may be a problem at this site, also the dropped kerbs are in a poor state of repair. Jack Lawton proposed that if a solution on the public highway could be found it would be preferable.
ACTION: John Burrell to approach County Highways to explore what action can be agreed to overcome the problems being caused by the high kerb.
Andrew Cowan stated that driver attitudes vary and make all the difference in the experience. A&M operate the services. At present the contract does not impose any conditions relating to the quality of service or any need to undertake any Disability Equality Training.
3 Matters Arising
ACTION: The attached forms need to be completed by as many members as possible and returned to Paul Tolley, send to Paul Tolley, CDP, Unit 15, The Arches Industrial Estate, Spon End, Coventry, CV1 3JQ, so that the results can be published in the Observer. Those who have received their minutes electronically can either print off the questionnaire and send to Paul Tolley, CDP, Unit 15, The Arches Industrial Estate, Spon End, Coventry, CV1 3JQ or request a printed version from Paul Tolley on 02476 716217: or to fill in the form on the telephone; phone Paul and he will phone you back.
4. Items for Discussion
ACTION: All members to complete the attached questionnaire and return as soon as possible using the freepost envelope provided.
Those who have received their minutes electronically can either print off the questionnaire and send to Paul Tolley, CDP, Unit 15, The Arches Industrial Estate, Spon End, Coventry, CV1 3JQ or request a printed version from Paul Tolley on 02476 716217: or to fill in the form on the telephone; phone Paul and he will phone you back.ACTION: John Burrell to report back on any response to Jack’s comments at the next Forum meeting.
La Margherita have changed their access and attitude for the better.
5 Any Other Business
Johns’ Spot – JB
The Pig & Truffle pub have put in an application to change the use of their first floor to provide a 1st floor venue. The response to this application has been to insist on lift access.
A Building Regulations Application has been received from Gala Bingo to put in a partition to separate out the gambling machines. The response to this has been to remind the architect that in planning works that there should be consideration paid to how access issues could be overcome. John Burrell will approach Gala and they will be included in the survey.
ACTION: John and Pat Compton will liaise on this
Police Spot
It has been agreed that the Police will support the Wheelchair event and will provide crowd control.
The Traffic Warden reported that the dropped kerb at bottom of Regent Street is being addressed as the parking bay overlaps the dropped kerb and those parking over the dropped kerb are being booked.
Steve Bunyan highlighted that after 5pm all disabled bays seem to be occupied by non-disabled people 10-2 1:30-5:30 so policed only up until 5:30 pm. Special constables have targeted these issues after 5:30 but it will be reported to see if this can be stepped up. The police and traffic wardens were asked to do whatever they can to improve this situation and for John Burrell to highlight the problem within the Borough Council. The gating of Sheep St seems to have laxed and this should also be reported.
Two police vehicles have been seen blocking access at Morton Gardens
c) Other
Paul Tolley reported that he has been approached by the Pentecostal Church in Cambridge St which needs to provide accessible parking but need to liase with the Highways dept to achieve this.
ACTION:Paul will contact John Burrell to help move this forward.
Paul Tolley also reported that he has come across a grant giving organisation that will assist churches and other places of worship to fund works carried out to give access to disabled people.
ACTION: If any members are aware of any access issue regarding churches etc. to let him know on 02476 716217.
Jack Lawton invited suggestions for speakers at future meetings. Robin Richter (Town Centre Manager) has agreed to be a speaker at next meeting but any other recommendations are called for.
Steve Bunyan recommended the Sainsbury’s manager Richard Young.
Coventry Disability Access Group and a Daventry disability group have expressed the wish to come to future meetings.
ACTION: David to respond to both groups and Richard Young from Sainsbury’s inviting them to the next convenient meeting.
Jack reported that the Disability Support Group met yesterday and as no Disability Theme Group has been set up to be part of Rugby Forward the position of the Disability Support Group as a Community of Interest Group was agreed to be untenable.
The Disability Support Group will continue as it always has done to liaise with individual representatives at a strategic level.
Jack thanked everyone for attending.
6. Date of Next Meeting:
10am 22nd February 2005
Robin Richter will give a talk on Rugby Town Centre
Please remember your 25p for tea & coffee
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